If Ray Franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the Governing Body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the Cult?
Would we have come this far?
John Aquila
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Ray Franz and You.
by John Aquila inif ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.
would we have come this far?.
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Sam Herd’s comment on the 2001 Dateline expose
by Londo111 inim going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..
he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..
the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.
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John Aquila
what an embarrassment or worse it will be for those who continue loyal, to call themselves JWs.
In my opinion, if I was still a JW and standing next to one of those carts, it would be torture knowing that I must look to passerby's as loco in the head for being a JW. In our world today it does matter to people - even JWs - what others think of them, that's why JWs work so hard to put on a good front - cars clean, dress well, speak well - so the world will listen to them. Mark my words, JWs (except the crazies) in this modern world will exit this shameful religion because of their shame coming from being a part of it.
Barbara
That’s true Barbara, if I didn’t know TTATT, and with everything that is happening to the WT in the past two years, I would walk away just out of embarrassment.
I know a couple of young JW girls that just walked away, not because they figured out it was a scam but because they were just to embarrassed to be associated with the WT and all the bad publicity.
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LET'S EXPLORE A LITTLE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT
by TerryWalstrom inover here on the left we have a governing body which is inspired directly by jehovah to receive his instructions for how to worship and interpret the bible accurately.. on the other hand, on the right we have a governing body which isn't inspired nor directed by jehovah, but which is making the best guesses they can make as mere humans as to proper worship and bible interpretation.. here is our thought experiment.. what differences would we see or would have seen in the last 100 years of jw teaching in each instance, .
and how would they differ?.
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JW ended a relationship with me
by V1922 inmy jw boyfriend just ended a year and a half relationship with me.
it came out the blue and i'm deeply hurt by this because we were so compatible.
he did it right before the big annual gathering he is presently attending.
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John Aquila
What type of religion condones the type of rationale to deceive people and if you don't follow them they just up and throw you away?????
The Watchtower Religion.
Don't ever date a Jehovah Witness again. It will bring nothing but trouble and regret.
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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?
by opusdei1972 inmay be some of you will be shocked by this question.
however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.
of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.
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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?
by opusdei1972 inmay be some of you will be shocked by this question.
however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.
of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.
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John Aquila
Paul was not telling the Corinthians that it went against biological norms for men to wear long hair, but that it went against Roman convention
Caleb, what exactly did Paul mean when he said;
(1 Timothy 2:12) . . .I do not permit a woman to teach,. . .
The Watchtower uses this scripture to prevent women from giving talks, being an MS or Elders.Women in the WT are only good for going out in service and making cookies.
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Why hasn’t someone gotten real pissed off yet?
by John Aquila ini keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..
or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..
or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.
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John Aquila
Maybe the ones who are unhinged enough to so something like that are actually the same ones who feel compelled to stay loyal.
I think you hit the nail smack on!
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Breaking news: US mass shooting
by Simon init's getting to the point where cnn should start announcing "breaking news" if there *hasn't* been a mass shooting !.
it's crazy.. i was watching the 70's documentary they are running and that's the point when media hype about mass serial killers seemed to begin the danger-gun-solution hype cycle.
sure, people had guns before then but nowhere near like it is now.. when will it end?
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John Aquila
As you know, hundreds of years ago in England, a black swan was a popular symbol for the impossible because no such creature had ever been seen, until black swans were discovered in Australia. The bird now symbolizes, that which seems impossible “But can in fact occur” I like the way one article puts it, “The black swan reminds us that believing something cannot happen is often just a failure of imagination."
There have been a lot of close calls that the general population is not aware of. In order to have zero probability that a nuclear war of some sorts will not happen and affect several countries, including our own, the formula would have to be;
Zero Nuclear weapons = 0 probability of a nuclear bomb being detonated in our country.
But that’s not the case, is it?
Same with guns.
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Breaking news: US mass shooting
by Simon init's getting to the point where cnn should start announcing "breaking news" if there *hasn't* been a mass shooting !.
it's crazy.. i was watching the 70's documentary they are running and that's the point when media hype about mass serial killers seemed to begin the danger-gun-solution hype cycle.
sure, people had guns before then but nowhere near like it is now.. when will it end?
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John Aquila
Understand probability theory, and you will understand why you are wrong. More guns = greater probability they will be used, and misused, regardless of the majority of ownership being of those who are non-violent and responsible
If that’s the case, then we got something more important than guns to worry about.
According to a new report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), nine nations — the United States, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea — possess approximately 16,300 nuclear weapons. in total.Jun 17, 2014
More Nuclear Weapons = Greater probability they will be used sooner or later. -
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Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?
by John Aquila inthe ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.
the watchtower says yes.
they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..
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Thanks Caleb, and you are right, many Catholics are very unaware of what the Catechism teaches of the blessings of Heaven to be brought to the earth. I am going to use this to prove to Jw that the Catholics always taught this since they, the (JWs) believe their idea is original.